Many properties in the UK still have traditional single-glazed sash windows. Despite how nice they look, they are a real weakness when it comes to heat loss.
We have an enormous number of clients who are interested in replacing their windows, but we always get asked the same question – should they opt for timber sash replacements or uPVC sash replacements. In this blog we are going to look at the pros and cons of both to help shape your decision.
Reducing heat loss
The first thing to say is that replacing single glazing with double glazing will immediately increase the comfort of your home. Rooms will warm up quicker when you turn the heating on and the cold draughts that used to come around the edges of the old windows should be a thing of the past.
U-values for windows are as follows (remember lower is better!)
- Single glazed sash window will have a u-value of about 5.1 W/m2K
- Re-glaze existing sash windows + draught proofing will equal 2.1 W/m2K
- New box sash timber windows double glazed will be about 1.7 W/m2K
- New box sash uPVC windows double glazed will be about 1.6 W/m2K
Now these are approximate U-values, if you decided to go for high efficiency glass, the U-value can drop as low as 1.2 W/m2k. In fact, if you opt for triple glazing this can fall even further to 0.9 W/m2k.
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You also might wonder why re-glazing existing sash windows gives a slightly higher U-value even though they are double glazed. This is for two reasons:
1. The distance between the two panes of glass tends to be minimal
2. New double glazing units normally always have an inert gas (e.g Argon) between the two panes that helps further improve their energy efficiency – this is almost impossible to achieve when re-glazing existing windows.
So based on the fact that wood pretty much matches uPVC on efficiency, we need to consider the other factors at play here.
Cost of wooden sash versus uPVC sash windows
For many people, they opt for uPVC simply because it is cheaper. In fact you can replace a wooden sash for a uPVC equivalent for about £750, while a like-for-like timber replacement may cost nearer £1350.
On the whole, people have a lot of glazing on their homes, especially in Victorian properties where sash windows are prevalent. You can almost replace two windows with uPVC for the cost of replacing one with wood. This massive price difference is in our opinion the key decision maker for most people when it comes to replacing their windows.
Lifespan of uPVC/timber sash windows
The fact is that most people are looking to replace their original timber windows, from properties built in the late 19th or early 20th century. This demonstrates that if correctly looked after, wooden sash windows can last. The fact is though, in order for them to last this long they do require regular maintenance – if the frame lacks paint or varnish, the wood will begin to rot very quickly. Also make sure if you do decide to go for timber sash you choose hardwood windows, since these are the ones that will last!
uPVC double glazing will not last nearly as long – in terms of lifespan, many glazing companies, including Anglian glazing, offer a 10-year guarantee on their uPVC window frames. The lifetime of a uPVC has been set at 35 years by BRE (the building research company), but still this is far less than the timber frame windows (provided they are maintained correctly). Having said that, they do require very little maintenance over their lifespan.
uPVC frames also used to be known to discolour as a result of UV. In the last 10 years the uPVC companies have resolved this using by manufacturing UV stabilised frames. Most glazing companies should now offer a guarantee against ‘profile discolouration’.
The look of uPVC versus timber sash
Estate agents often come out with the classic line ‘properties with timber frame windows look better and sell for more.’ Well, in some cases that is true but like many things, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some people may put real value on windows, while others may be more bothered about the proportions of the rooms, for example.
The truth is that good uPVC windows look very similar to the wooden sash windows – but this really does come down to a personal preference.
Regardless of whether you opt for timber frame or uPVC – always go FENSA!
The final point worth mentioning is regarding FENSA (Fenestration Self-Assessment Scheme). This was set up in response to building regulations for double glazing companies in England and Wales.
If a glazing company is registered with FENSA, you can be sure that the windows you are installing properly adhere to building regulations. Please make sure therefore that any glazing company you use are FENSA registered!
I take the points above, but I think for me the biggest thing is keeping the aesthetic feel of the property and for me that makes wood the clear winner! Useful though, puts the arguments for and against well.
I went for uPVC to replace my sash windows in the home and it has made an enormous difference. The great thing is that you can pull the glazing down so the window goes sideways in the frame which makes it really easy to clean. Not sure you can do that with the wooden models!
Might be worth mentioning that not all window companies are FENSA registered. Some are CERTASS registered which is a FENSA equivalent and in my professional opinion, a better option than FENSA.
We inherited warped old uPVC tilt&turn windows – most of them nailed shut (only way previous owners could get them to nearly close, I assume). I do like the look of timber windows, and their environmentally friendly materials. We got quotes from 4 companies for timber sash&case (the house’s original windows); uPVC tilt&turn; uPVC sash&case; and triple glazed eco-house aluminium & timber windows. My top choice would have been the aluminium & timber – you get the nice timber on the inside, and the low-maintenance alu on the outside! But in the end we went for the uPVC sash&case (because of price) and I have to say they look amazing. They’re argon-filled and have metal reinforced frames and yes they tilt inwards for cleaning very handy 😉 They were fitted by the same company who did the quote for the alu/timber windows, a father-and-son team called DynaFit, based near Stirling (we live in Edinburgh). They did an excellent job at a very fair price so would recommend to anyone looking who lives in this area, whether looking for uPVC sash& case or their lovely eco windows.
I have bought a property with uPVC windows in place. Terrible esthetic look and feeling in my Victorian place.
So decided to change for timber ones. But of course, moving in already costs a lot of investment and windows are not cheap too. Still I have decided to give it a go and look into the market what can be offered. Asked for few quotes around London area and found myself a really good deal. Can’t be happier, will have my dream house.
Ruth,
Just wondering which company you found around London? I am similarly looking to have uPVC windows replaced with timber in a Victorian house. Thanks.
Hi Heather,
A couple of months ago I took the plunge with a company called OakView? I hadn’t heard of it before a friend recommended it to me. Worth a check anyway as I’m from London as well and I have nothing bad to say about them. Would be good to see who Ruth went with.
I have a cottage in Carmarthenshire and have just had my new, wooden, double glazed sash windows delivered. They have hardwood sills, and were made locally by a very traditional joinery workshop. At £400 each, I think they are far cheaper the uPVC, also are aesthetically and thermally superior, certainly better than the 1980’s aluminium that it will replace. One does wonder why anyone would have plastic, you can spot it a mile off, it betrays the character of a building and is quite frankly foul.
Hi. What is name of company you used. I have a 250 year old property to refurbish
Can you let me know the name of your window company, and are the sash windows you have double glazed.
Guy
Hi we live in carmarthenshire too and are looking to have wooden windows replaced. Who did you use and do you recommend them for fitting too? Thanks!! J weston
I needed some vertical sliding sash windows for my cottage style properly I was renovating. I was dead set against upvc and got a quote for timber sash windows which looked great. A friend who works for a local building company persuaded me to look at the upvc version as he said they had come on lots in recent years. I could not believe the difference! I got a quote in Irish Oak from a company called Roundbrand and they were 50% cheaper than the timber option. It seems upvc now have a kind of grain effect which really sets off the look along with an external Georgian bar. I would ideally still rather have timber but the price difference made it a no brainer.
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I am self building a 7500 sq ft Georgian style house near Farnham and looking for any tips or steers on the windows or doors….all gratefully received
I agree with a lot of this – but it’s simply not true that you have to go to hardwood for timber windows that last. Members of the Wood Window Alliance make windows from engineered slow grown softwood that is preservative treated and fully finished (painted and glazed etc) under factory conditions. Studies by Imperial College London and Heriot Watt University, Edinburgh have shown that frames made to these standards can be expected to have a service life of around 60 years – with ‘normal’ maintenance. This is roughly twice the life of a PVC-u frame. Hardwood frames are fine but expensive. It’s not easy to source certified timber. And many hardwoods (oak, for example) move a lot depending on moisture conditions. Stability is one of the most important factors in extending the life of the coating. Here an engineered (or modified, such as Accoya) softwood is your most practical bet.
uPVC is a nice way to ruin the authenticity of period Architecture. I haven’t seen any examples that match the aesthetics of wood. The majority of uPVC companies offer only a maximum 10 year guarantee, whereas some good Sash window replacement firms dish out up-to 35 years guarantee. The myth that uPVC windows don’t require maintenance is complete tosh too.. I’d be happy to fork out over double the cost per window for a guarantee 3x greater, a property resale value greater and a look far greater. If you think uPVC looks better or acceptable on a period property your slightly delusional. I’d love to ban uPVC on some premier residential roads in London and let the dullards play penny pincher on other roads.
you sound like a nice person
uPVC sash windows are more effective at incorporating thicker methods of glazing.uPVC vertical sliding sash windows are extremely low maintenance when compared to their timber alternative.
But surely they don’t last as long?
I don’t think uPVC is any better option if you are looking in terms of durability, stability and value of money. Wooden windows look very elegant and they change the whole outlook of the property. Also, when you can get wooden windows for the next 60 years, why would anyone want to go for uPVC for only the next 10 years? No matter what, plastic is still plastic and wood is still wood, you don’t have a comparison there at all. I personally love the wooden products because it makes you feel more closer to nature too. People have this misconception that uPVC are cheaper than wood, only if they searched properly and got the right people to be dealing with their windows. There are so many double glazing websites out there which doesn’t come with complete or satisfactory information. All they want you to do is get someone to give you a quote at your place. Working for a eco friendly construction and supplier company, I know for sure that wooden windows can be bought at a much cheaper price if ordered from the right place. If anyone needs more information regarding wooden windows, be it sash, casement or bay windows, please get in touch with me and I am sure I will help you out better. Thanks for reading.
Hi Hassan. I am also looking to have my sash windows replaced and would be really grateful for some information on timber windows. My email is mariepagr@yahoo.com – could you drop me a line?
Thank you for your time!
Hi Hassan, I am looking to replace my sash windows at home, I would be very grateful to speak with you regarding windows and “steal’ some vital knowledge off of you. If you have the time, please email me on dav1d.r87@gmail.com. Many thanks, David
the article misses the point that the quality of wood used in window construction these days is not on par with timber from 100years ago, and so the lifespan will not be equal
Hi Alex, Surely that depends on the company? I know I had a preference on the wood used for my new double glazed windows